tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4158406346037964376.post6771257819414827467..comments2024-03-20T00:32:01.785-07:00Comments on MemoriesandMiscellany: Pantin Paperweights: Snakes in the GlassJack Sullivanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01499431800088809848noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4158406346037964376.post-54476346515921548902019-05-24T06:28:42.880-07:002019-05-24T06:28:42.880-07:00Arnold: Thanks again for sharing the results of y...Arnold: Thanks again for sharing the results of your research. You have provided ample food for thought. Jack Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01499431800088809848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4158406346037964376.post-79469737905764150602019-05-16T14:05:48.246-07:002019-05-16T14:05:48.246-07:00Hello mr. Sullivan. I stay pretty alone with my op...Hello mr. Sullivan. I stay pretty alone with my opinion about Pantin weights, I feel I have to clarify my thoughts. Charles Colne didn't mention any Baccarat or st.Louis paperweights, which is pretty strange. He did mention 'squirrel' weights. In the ten years I am collecting now, I discovered only one antique squirrel paperweight,owned by 'the New-York Historical Society. This Squirrel weight is attributed to st.Louis. I've seen old recordings of glas factories in the 1860's. I excually can't imagine the Pantin Lizards were made under such circumstances. What disturbs me most is the fact there is no tradition of Pantin paperweights. If mr. Dunlop continious 'discovering' new Pantins like he does right now, we have hundreds, if not a few thousend Pantins in the next decenia. I'd call that impossible. So many paperweights attributed to Pantin, but no tradition at all. A gift from Pantin to the conservatoire des Arts et Metiers sounds interesting, but is it proof? Personaly I don't make my presents myself. This is why I can't see a present as proof, it might have been given to Pantin before, who knows? I realy hope we will get rock-solid proof one day! The artist of the 'Pantin' reptiles deserves that! Arnoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09580224026960965749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4158406346037964376.post-62679752217560062492019-02-02T07:30:35.588-08:002019-02-02T07:30:35.588-08:00Arnold: Thanks for answering the question of &quo...Arnold: Thanks for answering the question of "Unknown" In addition, you have added some mystery to their origin. Jack Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01499431800088809848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4158406346037964376.post-44806969401458515982019-02-01T07:55:13.226-08:002019-02-01T07:55:13.226-08:00Hello 'Uknown', The pricelist is mentioned...Hello 'Uknown', The pricelist is mentioned by R.Imbert and Y.Amic in their book 'Les Presse-papiers Francais, P75.If Pantin indeed made those lizards, Ralph Imbert and Y.Amic would have known, they new every Cristallerie, every dealer,especially in Paris. But okay, they lived a few decencia later. Onother fact is if thousends of people visited the great exhibition in 1878 then why is the only 'track' to the Pantin a note of an American diplomat? It just doesn't fit. If you ask me, the lizards were made by an individual artist, who might have had connections somehow with Pantin. Against small payment there are lists of all products Pantin documented on the internet, no paperweight is mentioned. One flower paperweight contains a sticker which can easly have been exchanged from onother Pantin product. No proof for me, but it could be an indication. The pricelist of 1907 contains a 'simplfied example of this model' wereby the writer is refering to the snake and rocks. I am not an expert, but to me the proof is very doubtfull.Arnoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09580224026960965749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4158406346037964376.post-40415801407577681932019-01-31T15:33:48.153-08:002019-01-31T15:33:48.153-08:00Where is this price list?
Where is this price list?<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01177930261857362495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4158406346037964376.post-67842771569702520952015-10-05T04:38:42.791-07:002015-10-05T04:38:42.791-07:00Thank you for sharing this information!
There is a...Thank you for sharing this information!<br />There is a Baccarat price-list of 1907 in which lizard paperweights are catalogued. Analyses of the glass however, direct to to the Pantin cristalleries. Strange fact is the extermely high quality as well in performance as in ideas without a developement history. I do have another picture of a Pantin weight with a salamander and a red/white flower which I would descripe as a tulp. This weight turned up in a Polish collection. Of course you're very welcome to place this picture on this blog! Best regards, warindebeetjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18025088586954061886noreply@blogger.com